In this episode, Brent and Alan discuss Alan’s upcoming trip to the STAR East test conference, and a bit about using Kanban for chores.
And then comes a question / statement about estimation that’s worth every minute.
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The link to “Gamification by Design” (~36mins) is http://it-ebooks.info/book/570/
(I think that’s the link you meant. I’m not sure of that site’s legality though.)